Amid mockery and stereotyping, where is the honor?

 


Published/Last Modified on Sunday, January 10, 2010 4:10 AM MST

Billie Stanton
Straight Shootin’

Ditch the headdresses. Eradicate the face paint. Stop dancing, and stifle those phony war whoops.

Please. That’s all C.J. Brafford and Roland McCook ask of the Montrose High School “Indians” sports teams.

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But despite an earlier casual agreement that such costumed dancers would stop their warrior-like antics at “Indians” and “Lady Indians” games, the practice continues, as documented by Daily Press photographers.

Brafford, executive director of the local Ute Indian Museum, is a member of the Oglala Sioux tribe. McCook is a Northern Ute “ or, for cultural accuracy, an Uncompahgre Nuche ” who serves on the museum’s board of directors. He also is a descendant of Ute Chief Ouray and Ouray’s wife, Chipeta, who is buried on the museum grounds.

Unlike me, neither Brafford nor McCook has a problem with the team name “Indians.” Both say the term is generic and was intended to honor the original, indigenous inhabitants of this area.

But the Hollywood-type costuming and gyrations? “It’s not respectful toward us,” McCook says.

Likewise, one of the school’s hallways is labeled “WARPATH” ” an “aggressive word,” he notes, whose connotations apply more accurately to the European invaders who waged genocide on Native Americans.

“If it’s going to honor the Indians,” Brafford says, “then do it with integrity.”

American sports teams long have portrayed Indians as warring savages, an inaccurate and derogatory stereotype. The insidious problem spurred the National Congress of American Indians to file a lawsuit over the trademark of the Washington Redskins, whose logo is particularly onerous.

The U.S. Trademark Act specifies that defamatory or derogatory names cannot receive trademark protection. But while the lawsuit initially succeeded, it lost after repeated appeals ” because it was filed in 1991, deemed too long after the 1967 trademark, says John Dossett, general counsel for the congress.

Some progress has been achieved, however. The NCAA in recent years banned post-season play for any university using such mascots, with a namesake exception for those with tribal approval, Dossett says. Florida State University, for example, worked closely with the Seminole tribe to ensure that FSU’s cultural representations were accurate and not derogatory. FSU also provided scholarships and outreach to the tribe.

And thousands of high schools have eliminated Indian-affiliated names over the past 20 years, Dossett notes.

Not Montrose High, however. No more than a half-dozen Indian households are in Montrose, including Dine (formerly known as Navajo) and Cherokees, McCook estimates.

I doubt they’ll mount a campaign to change the teams’ names. But I wish they would.

With the exception of Notre Dame’s “Fighting Irish,” I can’t think of another group of human beings that is exploited to symbolize sport team ferocity.

Imagine the uproar if teams were named “the Jews,” “the Negroes” or “the Asians.” So why are Indians considered fair game?

America’s original inhabitants suffered extermination and capture by our government. They were ripped from their traditional, historic homelands and virtually imprisoned on reservations far away, notes my cousin, Sandra Miller of the Tohono O’odham Nation.

The United States suppressed their culture, beliefs and language, took their land, “signed treaties of broken promises, then snatched their children, forcing them into boarding schools for years to live without their true language, true names and their families to support and protect them,” says Miller, an environmental lawyer.

“We survived because we are strong, courageous and tenacious. Then out of respect, please just leave our people alone. We were warred against until we had to succumb . . . and now you want to take our name, mimic our sacred dances, don replicas of our sacred regalia and make it yours? Your teams, your rituals and team tradition?

“No,” Miller says. “You’ve taken enough.”

Indeed we have. As thousands of high schools and plenty of universities have determined, sometimes traditions need to be changed. The Montrose High Eagles? Now that’s got a ring to it.

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Comments

    Steve Hicks wrote on Apr 8, 2010 9:12 PM:

    " The high school in Idaho that got some talk-back about its Indian-named team "the Savages" was clever. They changed their mascot from an Indian brave on a horse to a Viking on a horse. "

    God Forbid wrote on Jan 27, 2010 12:20 PM:

    " what an outrage!!! omg what if the indians and gunny cowboys meet??? armageddon? "

    Tom Shearer wrote on Jan 26, 2010 12:00 PM:

    " How about "Native American Casino Owner" as a mascott?
    Native American tribes posted casino gambling revenues of nearly $23 billion, narrowing the gap with state-regulated non-Indian casino gambling revenues. Native American tribes across the US are cashing in on their casino gambling operations located on tribal lands. Indian casinos have been approved and/or are running in several states. Indian run casinos are expanding on what seems to be a daily basis. "

    na wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:43 PM:

    " to those of you who look to solve the problem instead of making an...of yourself (native dude & ghsalumni, to name a few), I say lets teach these kids this culture and way of life so when they go out there to support their team they do it in a respectful knowledgable way. Instead of thinking in stereotypes like some of you are doing. I'm sorry for some of you brainless people. "

    patriotdynamite wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:34 PM:

    " Hey Billie, During my many years living in Indian Country I have always seen many Indians wearing Washington Redskins hats, jackets, Tee shirts, vanity plates etc. with pride. It seems the only people wringing their hands about this are guilty white people such as you. "

    Jeese wrote on Jan 23, 2010 10:24 PM:

    " I must say that I truly believe that the Montrose Indians do not in any way mean to disrespect native culture. However, what people must understand is that the damage was done a long time ago. Indian is an ignorant, ridiculous term. They are only called "indians" because Columbus thought that he found India when he came to America. So, the term Indian is incorrect and derogatory. I understand where Stanton is coming from. What I see after reading the comments is that I live in a community of sad, angry people who confuse pride with bashing their fellow man. "

    MTJ Citizen wrote on Jan 22, 2010 8:36 AM:

    " The Lib's need to pass all the laws they can now because they know a big change is coming in Nov. "

    hmmmm wrote on Jan 21, 2010 6:26 PM:

    " Well it looks like they are trying to pass a bill to slove the prob. Read the story under AP colorado news it says...
    Under the measure (Senate Bill 107) schools would have until July 1, 2013 to try to get permission to either continue using their mascots or to use another Indian mascot. If they don't get permission and continue to use it anyway, they would be fined $1,000 a month. "

    Tom Shearer wrote on Jan 21, 2010 5:35 PM:

    " Yes Billie Florida State University does work closely with the Florida Seminole tribe. It is call get out the check book every year. The Seminole tribe of Oklahoma doesn't get a check so they are still offended. The scholarship that FSU gives is for the Seminole student that is Chief Osceola galloping his horse across the football field with his flaming spear. Now that is an accurate depiction of the Native American culture, as long as the check clears "

    pride wrote on Jan 21, 2010 5:22 PM:

    " My parents, aunts and uncles all graduated from MHS. There is not one day that the Daily Press doesnt print an article containing " Go Indians...." - Explain to me what the big hoopla is about? Who are we offending if the paper is consistently writing about how well our academics and athletics are donig. If anything, the teachers that are having relations with students are the ones responsible for being disrespectful to the native heritage. "

    My 0.02 wrote on Jan 21, 2010 12:05 PM:

    " Sorry guys I'm staying here, and bringing all my friends, in my effort to turn Montrose into another Boulder. Ha ha ha... the granola eat'n liberals are coming and there's nothing you can do about it... :o) "

    Researching wrote on Jan 20, 2010 9:52 PM:

    " What are the origins of the 'Indian' mascot anyway? I have my ideas of course, but does anyone know how, why, and when the mascot was chosen in Montrose? Maybe that will shed some light on what the intentions were for its choosing? "

    Courious wrote on Jan 20, 2010 9:30 PM:

    " na
    Please answer questions asked by Just Wondering. That person asked, "What exactly are the qualities of the Indian cultures that Indians most want represented in a school mascot? Are these qualities universal to all Indian cultures?" I think smart, cunning, resourceful, brave, agile, strong is a pretty good list. But I am not a Native American and I wouldn't want to be considered disrespectful. "

    MTJ Citizen wrote on Jan 20, 2010 9:29 PM:

    " To Lou D, That is funny!! This is truly another Boston Tea Party. I am a proud American and belive the government should stay out of our lives. The libs are trying to impose their thoughts on us and D.C. is going to here us loud and clear this fall. Ritter is already scared and that's why he dropped out so early!! "

    Lou D. wrote on Jan 20, 2010 4:54 PM:

    " "My 0.02" - How about we leave it Montrose Indians, and just throw a party for you as you leave town??? When are you leaving anyway??? Maybe you could move to MA, I hear they love the lefties there...oh wait...they don't want you anymore either. "

    My 0.02 wrote on Jan 20, 2010 8:26 AM:

    " To more accurately represent our community why don't we rename the team: 'Montrose Right Wing Nut-jobs' or 'Montrose Close Minded Agro Conservatives' or possibly the Montrose Racists? "

    na wrote on Jan 19, 2010 9:44 PM:

    " I agree with some of you. I think the best way to solve an issue is be approaching it in a positive manner. I wonder what can be done to make a class at MHS teaching students about native american heritage, after all its part of this countries history. If they can teach about the civil war and slavery then why not teach about another culture that has lived in this country longer than anyone else. Oh and I am Native American and PROUD OF IT!!!! "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 19, 2010 9:22 PM:

    " Yes Earnest Mann bring in your progressive thugs and with your big government indian beating stick force us to change our traditions. Treat us just as the progressives did the native americans. You would probably support the mascot of the Montrose Calvary then you could claim total victory of running the Indians out of this valley even their memory. "

    Earnest Mann wrote on Jan 19, 2010 7:55 PM:

    " When some don’t understand the difference between vocations, dead historical cultures and living peoples or between professional teams and publicly funded schools, something is definitely wrong.

    Montrose may lag behind with its common as dirt sports team token but one thing is certain - nothing lasts forever. Not mountains, empires, or even stereotypic ethnic sports team mascots. It is not a question of "if" these outdated icons will change, but only of when and how.

    Whether change comes through enlightened, deliberative thought or through divisive, prolonged controversy and shame is a matter of choice. "

    Just wondering wrote on Jan 19, 2010 3:46 PM:

    " I say keep the Indian mascot. What exactly are the qualities of the Indian cultures that Indians most want represented in a school mascot? Are these qualities universal to all Indian cultures? If this is such a big deal for Indians, make it a big positive deal for your culture and the school. Help the kids learn about Indian culture and reflect that knowledge in their school mascot. "

    montroseres wrote on Jan 19, 2010 12:15 PM:

    " I feel that comparing a school mascot to the outrageous injustices that were committed against the native americans only belittles those acts. It is not a mascot that is dishonorable but how human beings behave. In this case I don't see any disrespect, only pride and spirit. We have to teach respect, not take something away and expect that will solve it. GO MHS INDIANS! Stay respectful! "

    Native Dude wrote on Jan 19, 2010 8:56 AM:

    " GO INDIANS! GO INDIANS!!! SAY IT PROUD!!!! SAY IT LOUD!!! SAY IT PROUD!!!!! GO INDIANS!!! I AM AN INDIAN!!!!! DONT YOU WISH YOU COULD BE ONE TOO????!!!!!! GO INDIANS GO!!!!!! "

    MHS Student wrote on Jan 19, 2010 8:25 AM:

    " I am a senior at MHS. I also am one who paints my face and takes part in the cheers and such. My mom showed me this morning and at first I laughed, then I was frustrated. As with most students, painting my face and cheering has nothing to do with CJ or her heritage at all. I do these things to show my school spirit. To support my friends at their games just as they support me at mine. "

    Sensible wrote on Jan 19, 2010 6:20 AM:

    " Let the people who are offended (and claim to be "native") go to the school, set up an appointment with the Principal, and offer the opportunity to learn about the culture instead of feigning outrage at the so-called "mockery." Hey, this town has the least supportive spectators anyway. Give the students a lesson or two in Ute culture, have the "natives" come in to show them how it's done, give them some drums and let's really show our Indian pride! Don't just complain! Do something positive if you are so proud of your "culture!" "

    Montrose Citizen wrote on Jan 18, 2010 10:53 PM:

    " So let me get this right. It was okay for CJ's son to wear the head dress, but now he isn't in school anymore we should change the name?? How about we call it White Pride and see what that does!! How about we all stop being so political correct and get out of the crap. It is not being disrespectful at all. Has anyone gone to Farmington New Mexico? What do they do. Better call God cause the Durango Deamons is wrong. We might get possessed. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 18, 2010 10:03 PM:

    " Typical progressives, they distroyed the Native American culture, their families, their community and herded them on to reservations. They broke them as a people and mocked them in hollywood films. People wake up. The liberals are trying to distroy the american culture in exactly the same way. The Indian should constantly remind us what really want to do. Look at how newspapers stereotyped and mock native americans and help fuel the hate toward Indians. "

    Native American Always wrote on Jan 18, 2010 2:25 PM:

    " In responce to MHS Parents:
    You have a point that's what is said when people use these names, but if you pay close attention to what is being said after the games at the pow wows at the parade when C.J walks down the street in her authentic dress. You know that what they do at the games is for mockery it's not out of respect for the Native Americans. You know what those kids are thinking.Argument has been going on since I was in highschool Native Americans across the country have fighting this for a long time "

    native american always wrote on Jan 18, 2010 2:11 PM:

    " In Response to get real:
    If you were to stand in there shoes, and you were where they are on a daily basis listening to people like you and actually expierence prejudicy first hand not only face to face but through movies and books and papers. I don't think that's whining, I think that's standing up for themselves. If a man throws a rock in a pond it creates a ripple effect and changes the look of the pond it no longer sits still but it moves. "

    Native american always wrote on Jan 18, 2010 1:51 PM:

    " I feelbad for everyone that think that they are showing thier children the right way to act against other people. Making a mockery of another persons heritage, color, religion is WRONG! No matter how you the cake! I don't blame the children for acting like this, I blame the school board for allowing it, and the parents for accepeting it and saying it's okay, act that way I'll support you. If a mexican or a native american team would do the same using your race I guarentee you would be taking this all the way up to the supreme court. "

    na wrote on Jan 18, 2010 1:07 PM:

    " To MTJ citizen:
    I didn't realize pirates of today still dress that way. Native Americans take their heritage very serious and still practice the ways of their ancestors. Thats not something to be made fun of or mocked. Lets call MHS teams the germans or the aficans or italians or anyother race out there and see what happens Its not okay to make fun of somebodys race!! Its sad how small minded some people are:( "

    na wrote on Jan 18, 2010 1:00 PM:

    " IT IS DISRESPECTFUL!!! Let's take your hertitage or beliefs and portray them as some kind of joke, then see if you change your tune. I feel sorry for the kids who grow up thinking this behavior is okay. If more people respected others heritage and beliefs maybe WWII wouldn't have taken as many lives as it did. But no some of you only care about a football team. How can ANYBODY support a team that mocks someones RACE!!! "

    Brian wrote on Jan 18, 2010 9:38 AM:

    " Jake
    It was not disrespectful or ignorant. It was a good comparison. Eveyone is so worried about being politacally correct and worried about hirting someone elses feelings. Well, its time that everyone gets over themselves. Montrose high school is not disrespecting the name in way. So GET OVER YOURSELVES. GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

    Yeah wrote on Jan 18, 2010 8:50 AM:

    " I think we should change name to the "Hillbilly Rednecks" that would be more fitting for this town! "

    MTJ Citizen wrote on Jan 17, 2010 9:42 PM:

    " The Somalia Pirates called. They are offended by Olathe's mascot. They don't wear those silly hats, have skull and cross bones and they don't use swords any more. They are hi tech pirates that use automatic rifles and such. They said they would stop stealing ships if we could change the HS's mascot!! "

    jake wrote on Jan 17, 2010 8:39 PM:

    " bigb, your comparison is a perfect representation of how ignorant and disrespectful you and many others are. comparing native americans to your pet? ridiculous. you dont care about these people period. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 17, 2010 6:59 PM:

    " I figured it wouldn't take long for a liberal to mock and stereotype a founding father, way to go maverick your my hero. "

    na wrote on Jan 17, 2010 6:09 PM:

    " And for those of you who say how upset your animal must be because their some schools macsot. Thats so disrespectful these are people with real beliefs and real cultures. Not some cat that sits in a window all day, or some dolpin that swims in the ocean. This is people sitting in the bleachers giving support to MHS students, and then watching as their heritage is mocked. Come on people teach these kids respect for others, After all they will run this country some day. "

    na wrote on Jan 17, 2010 6:01 PM:

    " Where is the respect for anothers heritage? I think we need to support or future leaders but its also our responsibitly to teach me that other peoples religion, culture, heritage and beliefs are things that need to be respected. If they want to do "play" native american take the time to learn about that heritage and don't mock it understand it. maybe we should use tax dollars to provide a class at school that can teach these kids about this culture and these people. "

    MHS PRIDE wrote on Jan 17, 2010 11:33 AM:

    " Let's take this opportunity to take this pride for our school and support our schools. Attend a game, concert, meet. Help our schools with money, time or knowledge. Let's make homecoming week a time of pride. You all seem to have pride in the Indian name, show some pride for our school. And now...who can sing the school song??? "

    MHS PRIDE wrote on Jan 17, 2010 11:29 AM:

    " I have read the comments here and it has made me stop and think. There is so little school spirit at MHS. The students don't support the sports, bands, choir, speech team, ect. As I sit at the games and when the school song is actualy played they don't even stand up. (how many of you students know the words?) Now for the community...it used to be that during homecoming week the whole town got involved. Store windows were painted, people turned out for the parade. Where is the community support for the students at MHS? "

    Maverick wrote on Jan 17, 2010 5:33 AM:

    " Wow Curtis! How profound! (Give me a break!) "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 17, 2010 3:16 AM:

    " If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

    -Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776 "

    BigB wrote on Jan 16, 2010 9:40 AM:

    " I agree with peace lover. We need a sense of humor. That's why I want Ms. Stanton to interview my cat about how offended she is about Fruita being the Wildcats. Ms. Stanton can then take up my cat's cause in Fruita. I'm sure the Daily Sentinnel would love to have her on staff for such a noble cause. She might even get the "Human of the Year Award" and my cat might get the "Cat of the Year Award" from PETA. "

    Peace Lover wrote on Jan 15, 2010 4:52 PM:

    " Where is our sense of humor? I have even heard of people taking offense to this seasons funniest sight: a snownan spraypainted black named "snowboma".
    We all need to get a life! "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 15, 2010 1:21 PM:

    " Ute Chief Ouray said "Agreements the Indian makes with the government are like the agreement a buffalo makes with the hunter after it has been pierced by many arrows. All it can do is lie down and give in." "

    Get Real wrote on Jan 15, 2010 10:57 AM:

    " Omg get over it people of all the things that need attention right now we are getting stuck on the name of the dang High School Sports Teams? If you ask me these people are just looking for someone to feel bad for them....well guess what I'm not the one that took your land I'm not the one that warred with your people here is an Idea how bout you teach them the right way to do the freaking dance? I was unaware that the Original Indians Honored Whining about stupid crap. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 15, 2010 9:54 AM:

    " I just wonder what at the motive of B.S. with this opinion piece. If she has a problem with Montrose as she claims then her stay here is going to be miserable. B.S. We are a community that's united, we hate government intrusion into our lives, we are an independent people and we love chocolate. Long live the Montrose Mouse. And Long live the principles taught to us by Chief Ouray and Chipeta. Thank you for your opinion and for telling us that you choose to be miserable. "

    MHS Parent 2 wrote on Jan 15, 2010 8:43 AM:

    " The MHS students are still forbidden from displaying 'Indian Pride'. Mr. Barnhill? Afraid of community backlash? Read the blogs Mr. Barnhill. We got your back. Did Kevin triy to talk to MS B.S. and was told him he was 'iillogica'l and she wouldn't talk? Come on parents&students - fight for what you believe in. Semper Phi! Make your voices known. Rolling over to the present government has gotten us-high unemployment, rocketing debt, record forclosures, behind door deals. Are you going to 'roll over' on your kids? Be proud, Be loud, Go Indians!!! "

    1983 Grad wrote on Jan 15, 2010 8:30 AM:

    " Wow! Go back where you came from. This is why we do not buy the paper anymore. It is one sided for sure! Leave the kids alone and go back to where you came from or to Boulder, Colorado, they have lots of liberals there, you should fit right in! "

    Handsome Bill wrote on Jan 14, 2010 8:22 PM:

    " The so called "elite" P. C. crowd relishes the idea of telling us how to live, what is proper, how to vote, and on and on. Merry Christmas , Happy New Year and bless everyone.

    Handsome Bill "

    hmmm wrote on Jan 14, 2010 7:10 PM:

    " continued
    If we continue to recognize those who complain about using certain names for mascots then why can't anyone complain about any name? If it is bad for a team to be called the Braves why isn't it equally as bad to be called the Patriots? Nobody complains about the Patriots. If it is bad to be called the Indians why isn't it equally as bad to be called the Cowboys?
    (btw - i'm not a conservative either) "

    hmmm wrote on Jan 14, 2010 7:06 PM:

    " Team names and mascots are chosen to represent what the individuals think their persona should be; not as a way to poke fun at the origin of that name. No team would ever select a name that would make them look bad. Do you know of any team called the "Idiots?" How about the Neanderthals? Or the Blockheads, or the Fools? Of course not. Being elected as a name and mascot for any sports team should be an honor, not a disgrace. "

    Kris Frigetto wrote on Jan 14, 2010 5:27 PM:

    " The fact that some "out of towner" can come here and try to change things just because she has job in paper is just ridiculous! I am proud of Kevin Masterson, it takes a lot of couarge to get up in front of the whole town and pump the crowd. For the Press to print such a stories is crazy I am sure they have Sold alot of papers with " INDIANS" in the headline
    Best Of luck To all Indians!!!!!!!!!!! "

    KRIS FRIGETTO wrote on Jan 14, 2010 5:26 PM:

    " I just sat here and read each and everyone of the posts. One common theme, GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!!!! I am a 2nd generation MHS graduate, and I am the father of 2 future Indians. For the writer to compare the word "Indian" to other more hateful terms in the Latino and African Amercian races is way off base I was offended by her artical. Go Indians "

    Researching wrote on Jan 14, 2010 4:16 PM:

    " In 2004, there were somewhere around 18,000 high schools that I can gather from looking around on the net. Let's say for sake of argument, there are now 20,000 high schools. 'Thousands' would indicate at least 2,000 right? So the editor is claiming that 10% or more of high schools have changed their names or traditions? I doubt this is the case! "

    2nd gen MHS Indian wrote on Jan 14, 2010 2:34 PM:

    " To the people who agree with getting rid of Indian mascot...the problem that conservatives have with liberals is not that they speak their minds. It's that liberals aren't happy with just debate. They want us all to fall in line with their beliefs. Ms. Stanton doesn't just tell us she thinks it's wrong. She tells us to change our lives to accommodate her ideology. Conservatives want to be left to live their lives as they see fit. Liberals want to make us all live their way. Kevin Masterson, keep up the good work. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 14, 2010 12:00 PM:

    " Well said mhs indian but be prepare to be called a "racist" by the liberals. Your not Harry Reid in a prominent position of power for the liberal agenda so they will mock and stereotype you as a racist. "

    MHS Parent wrote on Jan 14, 2010 11:23 AM:

    " UND-Fighting Sioux, UUtah-Utes, Sequoia HS CA-Cherokees, Choctawhatchee HS FL-Indians, Cleveland Indians, Minnesota Vikings, NC Tar Heels, Washington Redskins, Ysleta HS TX-Indians, Alvarado HS-Highlanders.... Mascots honor, not mimic and mock. They reflect the strongest attribute of the local region-mainly its people or ancestry of the region, as well as it's wildlife or natural resources. We honor and respect by using the Mascot 'Indians'-willing to fight, keeping the name alive, respected and cheered. Remember, Ms B.S. gave her opinion and that's all it was, HER opinion. Move on Montrose High, Be proud, Be loud, Go Indians! "

    Former Montrose Indian wrote on Jan 14, 2010 10:34 AM:

    " Good Editorial
    As a matter of fact, the NFL hasn't gotten rid of their stereotyping names. What about the Washington Redskins and the Minnesota Vikings. And since we are on the topic of professional sports teams what about the Atlanta Braves? Get your facts straight before commenting. "

    ummmm...really wrote on Jan 14, 2010 10:25 AM:

    " "The professional teams gave up their sterotyping names."


    Washington Redskins....pretty sure this would be a "stereotyping name" and it's still on the NFL roster.

    COME ON PEOPLE! THINK BEFORE YOU BLOG!
    Makes a ridiculous argument seem...well, MORE ridiculous. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 14, 2010 10:07 AM:

    " To Good Editorial- Here you go back to "Alinskies rule for radicals" Rule number 5 Ridicule. Let me ask you who was it that started the enslavement of Native Americans on reservations? It was a Democrat, President Andrew Johnson, It was not this community, this high school nor these youth. It was the National Government. It was the Democrats. "

    Jeff wrote on Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM:

    " Nice to see that Ms. Stanton is no longer a fan of Barack Obama, Al Gore, or Tom Udall on Facebook anymore...ha ha...way to stand by your convictions. Still a fan of Mark Udall I see...at least you haven't tried to totally hide your true feelings. Facebook...it's not as much fun as it used to be is it? Facebook, email, Ebay, and Youtube...the 4 Horseman of the Internet Apocalypse...they will ruin us all. :-( "

    Native Dude wrote on Jan 14, 2010 8:35 AM:

    " Good editorial......that was almost as educated a comment as comments being put out by our Federal Government right now. In fact you are wrong about the professionals giving up there names. You cannot name one that has. In fact litigation concluded this year on renaming the Washington Redskins and guess what???....they are still the Redskins!! Get a clue. This editorial and your comments are unsettling. "

    Ummm.... wrote on Jan 14, 2010 8:21 AM:

    " "Good Editorial"...Redskins, Braves, Chiefs, Canucks, Eskimos, Vikings, Texans, Celtics, Warriors, Blackhawks, Canadians....last time I looked those are still professional sports teams in the US and Canada that play in professional US leagues...so you are 100% wrong when you say that "professional sports teams gave up their stereotyping names." Montrose doesn't lag behind in anything, Your comments make you look very uneducated...Think before you speak! We are culturally sensitive in Montrose, we just don't have a lot of sensitivity towards ignorance...especially when it comes with an agenda. "

    MHS Alum wrote on Jan 14, 2010 7:54 AM:

    " Indians, Cowboys, Vkings, Pirates, Farmers. It doesn't take a lot of digging to find atrosities commited by ANY group of people. But using a group as a school mascot does not look at the negative. A mascot focuses on the positive aspect and characteristics of the group. Having the Indian as a mascot is an honor. Do MHS honor Indians in the perfect way. No. But they still honor the Indian. Let the kids honor the Indian in the best way they know how. Play hard, cheer hard, and have fun. "

    GHSALUMNI wrote on Jan 14, 2010 7:11 AM:

    " If the Native American population did more to promote a positive image rather than run casinos, maybe they would be more respected.
    Frankly, I am over the indians 'PLIGHT'. You would think that your culture would have evolved after 400 years & not be so dependent on the goverment via hospitals, grants for education, etc. I see the deterioration of the NA culture via your rampant alcoholism & gambling. Your culture does nothing to promote a positive image, while sports teams are supportive and promote youth of every color, shape and size, no matter who they are. "

    Open minds wrote on Jan 14, 2010 2:03 AM:

    " Not here! I can't even COUNT the number of comments to editorials I've read from people in Montrose telling others to shut up and take their liberal views (or their open minds) elsewhere. This IS a town of conformists, so that's a great name for your kids' sports teams. No need for free speech here - you don't want it! Someone might espouse a new idea, and you sure don't want to hear it! "

    Good editorial wrote on Jan 14, 2010 1:57 AM:

    " Skip directly to the namecalling, that's a good Montrose tradition ... Haven't you noticed the lack of Native Americans living here? Sure, "honor" them by naming a golf course after them, or a sports team, but don't acknowledge those people were driven from their homes so the white settlers could have it. It's a travesty to then mimic what they held as sacred, and say it's an "honor".

    The professional teams gave up their sterotyping names. So why does Montrose lag behind in cultural awareness and cooperation? Because Montrose lacks cultural sensitivity. "

    fred jones. wrote on Jan 13, 2010 11:00 PM:

    " As a football coach of MHS in the 80's. This makes me sick. "

    goober clooney wrote on Jan 13, 2010 10:58 PM:

    " Let's change the name of our team to "The Conformists" Our mascot can be made out of clear material so their color won't offend. It will be androgenous so you can't know the gender. instead of making cheers, they can only say words that a special committee approves. Maybe we can make our mascot "light in the loafers" so gays will feel included. Let's all be kind liberals who believe that political correctness is "necessary and right", then we can all live happily ever after in our socialist utopia where nobody is ever offended. Amen. "

    BIGB wrote on Jan 13, 2010 9:49 PM:

    " As a Montrose INDIAN, I am embarrassed and insulted by this. Keep the INDIANSr mascot. If we need to work with the Ute INDIAN Museum to enhance it, fine. Do it. But keep the mascot. Ms. Stanton suggests the eagle. What would PETA say? Olathe Pirates - no ocean. How offensive to real pirates. My cat is offended that Fruita is the Wildcats. She is not wild. Ms. Stanton can interview my cat. Ms. Stanton, take your "open mind" somewhere else. Try Chicago. They have the Blackhawks!!! "

    Silly wrote on Jan 13, 2010 9:31 PM:

    " You should just use your time worrying about more important things than whining about the name "Indians". "

    mhs indian wrote on Jan 13, 2010 9:02 PM:

    " I am an MHS student, athlete, and Indian and I know I am well supported by my peers in saying that none of us are trying to disrespect or make a mockery of the Indian name. We sincerely respect and honor our mascot. No, we may not be blessed with Native genes in our blood but we are our own unique tribe. In the late 18th and 19th century, America forced Natives to assimilate to American society and tried to eliminate their culture. We now know this was a huge mistake and acculturating our MHS Indians would be too. "

    18 th Cherokee not much but you know wrote on Jan 13, 2010 8:15 PM:

    " Grew up in the middle of Cherokee territory. 75% or more of my classmates were "full blood" Cherokees. School team name was "Indians" (go figure). This was a matter of PRIDE for our community. Mascot (yes, a living, breathing Cherokee) would actually ride a horse onto the field, stick a spear into the grass before the football games. Great show and got the crowd all riled up. Even had the (then) Chief herself herself, WIlma Mankiller, at some games. Never heard her complain once. Check if anyone else is actually on the bandwagon with you before you start slinging mud. "

    Former Montrose High Indian wrote on Jan 13, 2010 5:57 PM:

    " i was also a montrose high school indian for four years.I never once disrespected the name. No one i went to school with or played sports with ever disrepected the name. We have the highest respect for the name. To me it was an honor to be a Montrose Indian. GO INDIANS "

    Montrose Brave wrote on Jan 13, 2010 4:02 PM:

    " This mascot issue is an attempt to divide this community. The image of a Native American honors the Native Americans just as a Native American dressed up like an eagle honors the eagle. Ridiculing the mascot has no defense. It's irrational. It's devisive. The mascot became the target because it attacks a symbol of unity for this community. Ms. Stanton attacked that which gives us pride in our heritage and in the history of this community. If we give into this liberal then the mascot should be a coward. The Montrose Coward, how does that work for you? "

    Jenny wrote on Jan 13, 2010 2:54 PM:

    " Ms Stanton - you owe our High School and Community a public apology. This was not handled correctly. The articles points looked like 'cut & paste' from years gone by, not currents facts and certainly not in anyone's best interest. Our school spirit at events has been exceptional and envied by visiting teams who have lost their student support and interest. Our basketball game was quiet last night - the students stunned at the MDP ambush. Perhaps the Grand Junction Sentinel is the paper we should be supporting. Let's band together Indians! "

    alley wrote on Jan 13, 2010 1:11 PM:

    " MY GOSH, what a petty thing. GOing out and causing a whole heap of trouble and out cry over a high school team name. They are called the idians, which is pretty generic, they are not calling themselves the Utes, the CHerokee, or any specific name. back in the day before the "white man" came native americans were braching out and making new groups. SO why can't we just look at it as a new tribe. "

    HA wrote on Jan 13, 2010 11:44 AM:

    " We should feel privileged? for what? having a wiling accomplice force feed us more bs. Woodey should be fired for incompetency in his hiring practices, his political motivation was the only reason for hiring this person. "

    A. Wells wrote on Jan 13, 2010 11:24 AM:

    " Video killed the radio star. Stanton killed The Citizen (among others) "

    Native Dude wrote on Jan 13, 2010 10:41 AM:

    " Speaking as a person with Cherokee ancestry (although not enough to qualify for my government check or to legally carry opium in my car or on my person....LOL) I say GO INDIANS!!!! Truth be told, the Indian nation would probably rather be represented as what they WERE as opposed to what they ARE today. Try a visit to New Mexico or live next to a heavily populated reservation for a spell. Once again....GO INDIANS!! "

    Pathetic wrote on Jan 13, 2010 10:15 AM:

    " Concerned Res: I'm a "real" Indian. I have no problem with the mascot. What you have here is a "reporter" and a few over-sensitive, attention starved, people looking for free press. Nothing more. Idiotic beyond belief.

    Editor: How many of our brave men and women died in Iraq yesterday? Don't know do you? Nope because a MASCOT'S name was more important to you. Pathetic! "

    calvin wrote on Jan 13, 2010 7:15 AM:

    " Indians... the aboriginal people. The first people on this continent to hold slaves, to torture emeny combatants, to exploit natural resources beyond natural capacity, to cannibalize, to opress women.... need I go on. The "Indian" moniker is indeed fitting for an American High School football team. "

    Maverick wrote on Jan 13, 2010 7:05 AM:

    " To Mr. "Open Minded." Should the editor have gone to the Principal first and gotten her facts straight before publishing her story? Sure!! However, that's the way liberals think. They make up their minds that something is so and they just go with it--no thought--no reason! I have no problem with letting the "ancients" come and teach our kids about traditions! Heck, bring the drums in and actually let the students have some fun and make some noise instead of having to be stangulated by being politically correct spectators! Wake up Montrose! "

    Maverick wrote on Jan 13, 2010 6:59 AM:

    " Before writing the article, the editor needed to have the common courtesy and the ethical standards to first go talk to the Principal. She did not. Then she would discover the story. Instead, she talks about "mockery" before she actually researches the story. Pick up the phone, at least, and ask a couple of questions before shooting your mouth off. The headress was off limits until CJ allowed his son to wear it. Now that his son is gone, it becomes a problem? Political correctness should just go away! "

    Jeff wrote on Jan 12, 2010 10:57 PM:

    " Hey "OpenMindead"...why exactly should we feel privilaged? The last paper this "highly-qualified" editor was a part of went BROKE! By the way...she's not all that open minded herself...A simple glance at her Facebook page, and it's pretty easy to see where she stands. Mark Udall, Tom Udall, Barack Obama, Al Gore...she will find very few allies here. She will be part of the demise of yet another paper though, so she's got that going for her. "

    Montrose Citizen wrote on Jan 12, 2010 9:28 PM:

    " As I read the "minority" it seems it is yet again our fault for having a free spirit. How about the Indians coming and giving back to the communiyt? Thats not going to happen because you feel like we owe you something. We owe nothing and can only be proud to call ourselves The Montrose Indians. True fighters. Lets call ourselves the whimps. or that might hurt feelings. See why our country is screwed up. WOW GO INDIANS and Yes INDIANS it shall be. "

    OpenMinded wrote on Jan 12, 2010 8:13 PM:

    " The Montrose community should feel privileged to have a highly-qualified editor such as Ms. Stanton join the newspaper staff. I welcome her thought-provoking commentary. In her position, I'm sure expects dissent. In that MHS's purpose is EDUCATE, perhaps we grads could more proudly represent our beloved alma mater by ensuring any dissent is respectful, based on facts, and free of name-calling. "

    JudyJ wrote on Jan 12, 2010 8:04 PM:

    " Omigod, "concerned res" and I are on the same page -- but not necessarily on the same line. So many of you need to try harder to be less knee-jerk. If we were to research the whole "Indian" connotation, we'd see how we could pursue things that would have more impact on our communities. Yes, it'd probably be better to have named our school teams in a more sensitive way, but the world doesn't end with a name. "

    concerned res wrote on Jan 12, 2010 7:54 PM:

    " To all of the supporters of the "Indians" mascot, you're correct in that I am the minority with my opinion. I think that it's great that you have all come together in support of something that you feel so strongly about. However, I am disgusted with the lack of desire to show respect to the real "Indians". "

    Long time native wrote on Jan 12, 2010 6:56 PM:

    " Thank you mtj citizen
    This was addressed a few years ago and it was determined to not be a problem by the native indians present in this community but an honor. I also seem to remember also at a previous time, representatives from the local tribes came to the high school and did a ceremony for the totem pole at the end of the football field to "bless" it. "

    mtj citizen wrote on Jan 12, 2010 5:24 PM:

    " This editor is ridiculious. As so is the MDP. Focus on news and not your liberal opinon. Remind me but hasn't this same issue been addressed about 10 years ago? "

    Sheila wrote on Jan 12, 2010 5:23 PM:

    " To Concerned Res:
    I can see by the overwhelming support posted here you are in the "minority" maybe YOU need to get a life instead of shooting YOUR mouth off and by the way, no one really cares what color you are. if you are an adult, shame on you for calling names! That makes you look like a loser. Don't worry Kev, by the looks of it, most of Montrose has your back! "

    Lil Me wrote on Jan 12, 2010 5:12 PM:

    " Wrong attitude Kevin Masterson! Indians first try to create peace. "

    concerned res wrote on Jan 12, 2010 5:01 PM:

    " Hey Kev, try some anger mgt classes. You are missing the point. YOU have an opportunity to be a real leader, seize the moment. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 12, 2010 4:30 PM:

    " It amazes me how intolerant, how prejudice and how cowardly most liberals are, at least Billie Stanton had the backbone to put her name on her attack article in the Montrose Daily Hen Mess. The Indian mascot need to do more to his headdress and face paint especially if it is to match the styles of the native americans.I do agree that your war chants and dances look phony, they just don't measure up to those of the real warriors. "

    Jen wrote on Jan 12, 2010 4:27 PM:

    " I think the big problem here is that the Montrose Indians (as well as other schools using Indian names) arent using the mascot/name respectfully. Like another post stated maybe they should learn the real Indian dances and history. I understand C.J.'s comments. Think about it, what if Hitler was the mascot and they were portraying him as honorable, just the same as the fact that Indians are not savages. How would all you white people feel about being portrayed at savages, oh wait most you still are. "

    Kevin Masterson wrote on Jan 12, 2010 4:15 PM:

    " hey "concerned res" whoever you are. i'd loovvee to mee you and discuss how cool i'm trying to look. gimme your name i'll see you anytime "

    Getamascot wrote on Jan 12, 2010 3:27 PM:

    " As a 6'5" blond haired blue eyed man of English descent I want the name "Vikings" stricken from all sports teams. I wouldn't look this way if some random Dane hadn't gone "A'viking" raping and pillaging on the English coast. Calling your team the "Vikings" only glamorizes the suffering of my ancestors at the hands of murdering Saxons. Ridiculous isn't it..... "

    COACH B wrote on Jan 12, 2010 2:15 PM:

    " KEVIN MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU TO MAKING SCHOOL SPIRIT HAPPEN AT THE GAMES. WHY DON'T WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS SIT ON THEIR HANDS AND DO NOTHING. I SEE SCHOOL SPIRIT AND HAVING STUDENTS SUPPORT THEIR PEERS. MHS GRADUATE AND PROUD OF IT "

    Jeff wrote on Jan 12, 2010 1:03 PM:

    " Umm...just the Fighting Irish...thats the only one you are aware of...are you really that ignorant??? How about...Patriots, Vikings, Swedes, Celtics, Eskimos, Canucks, Nationals, Britons, Saxons, Warriors, Scots, Vandals, Flying Dutchman, Gaels, Ragin Cajuns, Norse, Norseman, Spartans, Trojans, Quakers, Plainsmen, Yankees, Orangemen...is that enough. As the editor, you might want to do a little research before you shoot your mouth off. "

    Montrose Indians wrote on Jan 12, 2010 1:01 PM:

    " We are proud to be Indians. The war paint and headdress is a symbol of our pride. All of our cheers are tradition and as long as we have attended the school we have not mimicked any sacred dances. Go Indians! "

    fuzzhead wrote on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 AM:

    " "Staight Shootin" what a joke. This should be called "Straight Political Correctness". Take your liberal values back to wherever they will tolerate them and let common sense rule here. Take a look at what PC has done in the recent past (Ft. Hood;underwear bomber). Whether you have enough common sense to know it, your attitudes are dangerous. "

    Montrose Citizen wrote on Jan 12, 2010 10:09 AM:

    " CJ Bradford- How about the Ute Indian Musuem being moved? It offends me. guess that will not happen now will it? So I guess the Montrose Indians will not move as well. Are you kidding me. Get rid of the very pride which these kids play for? How about get rid of everything that we have ever fought for? Gee that just doesn't make since now does it? And Montrose Eagles? Ummm NOOOOOOOO go Indians wooooo wwwooooo. "

    concerned res wrote on Jan 12, 2010 8:48 AM:

    " To the mascot, Kevin Masterson.
    You are young and foolish. Instead of trying to look cool maybe you should put yourself in their shoes and try to imagine what they(Native Americans) are seeing and talk to them to see what you could do differently to honor the very people that YOU portray! You are very enthusiastic and do a good job of getting the fans involved, but, show some sensitivity.
    Oh, and by the way, I am white. "

    concerned res wrote on Jan 12, 2010 8:39 AM:

    " And, I don't see what this has to do with the MDP? They are simply doing their job! You bloggers are showing some serious stupidity! If you clowns were smart you would simply get with tribal members and see what you could do to make it more respectful so that you could keep your mascot. "

    Oldtimer wrote on Jan 12, 2010 8:34 AM:

    " I think that Billie Stanton would be a great addition to the Liberal staff of the Denver Post. "

    concerned res wrote on Jan 12, 2010 8:29 AM:

    " What a bunch of ignorant, close minded, selfish, disrespectful, unsympathetic losers all of you are. The Montrose "Indians" think that they're doing the Native Americans a favor by making "Indians" their mascot. Other than using an "Indian" as their mascot, what does the high school do to honor the Native Americans, just curious. If there are things that bother the Native Americans, why doesn't the high school and it's mascot sit down with them, out of respect, and see what they can do differently!!! "

    Ryan wrote on Jan 12, 2010 6:49 AM:

    " “We survived because we are strong, courageous and tenacious" Those sound like pretty good things to admire and fashion a mascot around.

    "Less thunder in the mouth, more fire in the heart." "

    Maverick wrote on Jan 12, 2010 6:14 AM:

    " The Montrose Press is in trouble. They cannot sell enough advertising to make a go of it. Instead, they grab headlines "off the wire" while "reporting" on rapes, drugs, and other seedy things that are "no brainers." This story is another example of trying to create controversy to sell papers. Mrs. Editor, try cleaning up your own house before going out to clean up for others. "

    Curtis wrote on Jan 12, 2010 1:32 AM:

    " A true Indian will stand up for truth and will fight for freedom. They soar like eagles, proud and free. They will not cower like chickens couped by liberal idealogy. Montrose Brave said "The difference between an Eagle and a chicken is that chickens have socialized housing, socialized food, socialized healthcare. Those that allocate the funds control the end result of these chickens lives. Eagles on the other hand take care of themselves and they soar free." Indians are like eagles and they will fight when fight they must and they will be peaceful the rest of the time. "

    JCH wrote on Jan 11, 2010 10:09 AM:

    " As one of the uncounted Native American families at MHS - we support the Montrose Indians and use of the headress and cheer leading. It is not 'war-whoops'. We have had MHS varsity letters with our kids in academics, soccer (girls and boys), tennis and basketball (girls and boys). We are Choctaw and proud of it!! Why do you think you can come here and 'dis' our kids and our 'Indians'???
    "GO INDIANS"!!!! "

    Canyonman wrote on Jan 11, 2010 9:25 AM:

    " It has often been said that immitation is the highest form of flattery. Jim Bridger and his contemporaries had great respect for indians. When you get down to it "indians" are stealing their name. "Indian" is a moniker given them by Europeans who thought they had circumnavigated the globe and reached the East Indies. They are Aboriginal Tribesmen of North America, not indians at all. Next? "

    Indian wrote on Jan 11, 2010 9:18 AM:

    " Been here a whole month and already wants us to change to meet her version of political correctness. Just like the other new arrivals, you want to change Montrose to be like the place you came from. Give it a rest, except change, and you will fit in. I hope. "

    John wrote on Jan 11, 2010 7:46 AM:

    " So if you are so upset about using Indians as the team mascot you need to include the Olathe Pirates also. We would not want to offend any of the Somali Pirates now would we. Get a life, when is this paper going to cover real news???? "

    Kevin Masterson wrote on Jan 10, 2010 7:48 PM:

    " I am the proud Montrose High School mascot. I think its hilarious how much you disrespected our entire student body just now. I am taking this very personal. If coming after a bunch of teenagers about getting excited makes you happy...wow lady. I look forward to having a conversation with you in the near future about my "mockery, disrespect" and all the other crap you made up. THANKS EVERYONE FOR HAVIN MY BACK! GO INDIANS! "

    G.L.D. wrote on Jan 10, 2010 6:42 PM:

    " First off, many more citizens of Montrose County are of Native American decent... My family alone would make up half of Mr. McCooks "half dozen"!

    Mrs. Brafford and Mr. McCook, I would propose to you this... Since the mascot is not the issue here, let’s teach the various cheer squads at our high school traditional dances to perform during events. Let's teach these young people our way... not the way of Hollywierd. Our heritage will continue to live AND our school will be able to thrive as one not to be taken for granted!!! "

    Show some love wrote on Jan 10, 2010 3:48 PM:

    " So we will stop so the Daily Press has no more stories to cover. We wont show any spirit so our athletes don't get amp'd and try hard. Congrats other team, here is the win on a Silver Platter (hold the spirit). Take a break Mr. Barnhill, the kids like to have fun. Get rid of the headdress lol, NO MORE MASCOTS in sports teams. What a joke. Go Indians! "

    Montrose Indian wrote on Jan 10, 2010 2:54 PM:

    " It's easy for someone who hasn't lived in Montrose very long to say we should change the name of our mascot. It's a tradition that many of us are proud of. Mascots are chosen because of their fearsome reputation. If you could go back in time and ask any pioneer or settler, they would all agree that American Indians were fearsome.
    CJ Brafford is an asset to Montrose, but apparently not all American Indians are offended by the headress and "warpaint". For the past couple of years it's been her son wearing them. "

    Snowglobe wrote on Jan 10, 2010 2:01 PM:

    " They have had this name since who knows when....when they dress up or still call themselves the "Indians" they do it in respect and it is showing pride! Its silly to want to change the name of the school mascot...I have never seen any disrespect at any of the games. GO MONTROSE INDIANS! and a big NO to Montrose Eagles are u kidding! "

    K Wiley wrote on Jan 10, 2010 12:52 PM:

    " While there at it why don't they remove the huge "God Bless Our Troops" banner in the high school's hall!!! Our invisible friends in high places won't help our troops at all! "

    Name it for the paper wrote on Jan 10, 2010 10:35 AM:

    " if the Daily press has its way,any tradition would be thrown away in favor of political correctness, they would be called the Montrose Mockers, or the Vegans, or how about the Margaritas, Martians, Medics, or Mediators. others, the Mennonites, Manipulators, Mollusk, or the Mortgages but the Montrose Mafia is taken, just ask the editor.

    Next is Olathe, because we dont want to offend Pirates, how does Olathe Victims sound? I still hope you still got that horse you in on, Ms. Stanton, your gonna need it. "

    1988 Grad OHS wrote on Jan 10, 2010 10:25 AM:

    " What?? The Montrose Eagles? Are you serious? Why so sensitive?? The team has been the Montrose Indians since I was born! I wish that we would have had such a cool mascot when I was in school. He does a much better job getting the crowd pumped up then the cheerleaders do! I for one, would vote a BIG FAT NO for any name change- just like I know all my friends would. Seriously, get a life and stop being SO sensitive! "